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The Energy Efficiency Council's podcast, First Fuel, brings you the latest perspectives on energy efficiency, energy management and demand response from Australia and around the world.

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First Fuel live recording events

The Energy Efficiency Council holds regular discussions with expert guests from around Australia; these are recorded and released as episodes of First Fuel on Fridays, ready for your weekend listening. If there is a hot topic at hand, or we’re connecting with an international speaker, these discussions are recorded live as a webinar so that our community has the opportunity to engage with people they may not normally get the chance to! Upcoming events will be listed below.

Recent First Fuel episodes

85: School's in for summer with Alex St John

Date: Thursday - 30 March

Along with ambitious commitments to renewable energy, the Albanese Government has set its sights on decarbonisation and energy efficiency, putting the nation's energy policy wonks to work over the summer.

In Episode 85 of First Fuel, EEC CEO Luke Menzel and EEC Acting Head of Policy Alex St John (a man who in his own words, “skews wonk”) discuss the “Summer of Submissions”.

Luke and Alex unpack the EEC's thoughts on the proposed ⁠National Energy Performance Strategy⁠, as well as ⁠climate-related financial disclosure⁠, the ⁠Powering the Regions fund⁠, and of course, ⁠reforms to the Safeguard Mechanism⁠.

Previous First Fuel episodes

84: Planning for net zero with Kate Levick - 13 December 2022

83: Energy Efficiency Summit 2022 – Heavy industry, lighter loads: competitiveness through efficiency - Tuesday 29 November

82: Energy Efficiency Summit 2022 – Batteries of the nation: zero emissions commercial buildings - Tuesday 15 November

81: Energy Efficiency Summit 2022 – Efficient, electric and affordable: creating better homes - Tuesday 1 November

80: Energy Efficiency Summit 2022 - Tuesday October 18

79: California dreaming with Andrew McAllister - Tuesday October 11

78: Farm panel – Energy management in agriculture - Tuesday September 20

77: Electrifying Europe with Thomas Nowak - Tuesday 6 September

76: 'He waka eke noa... we’re all in this together' with Dr Megan Woods - Date: Tuesday - August 23

75: Reinventing efficiency with Professor Nick Eyre - Tuesday 9 August

74: French dispatch with Dr Brian Motherway - 2 August

73: ‘A heat pump offensive’ with Frankie Muskovic and Carlos Flores - 27 July

72:'Berlin correspondents' with Frankie Muskovic and Carlos Flores - 20 July

71: 'Ecology and economy' with Dr. Nicholas Matten - Date: Tuesday 28 June

70: 'Skilling up for net zero' with Scott Ferraro and Holly Taylor

69: 'An overnight success, a decade in the making' with Adrian Joyce - Tuesday 14 June

68: 'A climate election' with Frankie Muskovic and Tennant Reed - Tuesday 31 May

67: 'Imaginary friends' with Lynne Gallagher - Tuesday 17 May

66: Untapped opportunity with Sagarika Subramanian - Tuesday 3 May

65: Sparking debate with Jorge Chapa and Taryn Cornell - Tuesday 19 April

64: 'Get your nerd on' with Jarrod Leak - Tuesday 29 March

63: 'A long term framework' with Zali Steggall MP - Tuesday 8 March

62: 'Tackling the climate crisis' with Adam Bandt MP - Tuesday 1 March

61: 'Building the industrial future' with Tim Wilson MP - Tuesday 15 February

60: ‘An economic focus’ with Chris Bowen MP - Tuesday 8 February 2022

59: 'A bolder ambition' with Dr Mary Stewart - Thursday 16 December 2021

58: Energy panel – Navigating to net zero - Thursday 18 November 2021

57: Urgency and action with Tim Goodson - Thursday 4 November 2021

56: The pathway to net zero with Energy Efficiency Expo climate panel –  - Thursday 21 October 2021

55: 'Getting all the fruit' with Mark Lister - Thursday 14 October 2021

54: ‘Building science, not rocket science’ with Jenny Edwards and John Konstantakopoulous - Thursday 30 September 2021

53: Euro vision with Ruud Kempener - Thursday 16 September 2021

52: 'Safeguard mechanism performance art' with Alison Reeve - Thursday 2 September 2021

51: 'This won't hurt a bit with Tennant Reed - Thursday 26 August 2021

50: Special edition: Mirror universe with Luke Menzel - Thursday 19 August 2021

49: The biggest repair job in human history with John Connor - Thursday 12 August 2021

48: Building momentum with Frankie Muskovic - Thursday 29 July 2021

47: Technology and possibility with Heidi Lee - Thursday 22 July 2021

46: Nesting doll of efficiency with Wendy Miller - Thursday 8 July 2021

45: Centring consumers with Lauren Solomon - Thursday 24 June 2021

44: Common wealth with Corey Diamond - Tuesday 10 June 2021

43: Industry and opportunity with Jarrod Leak - Tuesday 25 May 2021

42: Efficiency and net zero with Alyssa Fischer - Thursday 13 May

41: Assembling the A-Team with Dian Grueneich - Thursday 29 April

40: Passion and Policy with Katie McKenzie - Thursday 15 April

39: 'One of the big ones' with Bridgette Carter - Thursday 1 April

38: Lit up like the Starship Enterprise with Jon Dee - Thursday 18 March

37: Vision plus business model with Alison Rowe - Thursday 4 March 2021

36: The 'grid is good' with Damien Moyse - Thursday 18 February 2021

35. Grubby centrism with Frankie Muskovic and Tennant Reed - Thursday 4 February 2021

34. Market impacts with Jeremy Sung - Thursday 17 December 2020

33. Climate for change with Connie Hedegaard - Friday 11 December 2020

32. Setting goals with Zali Steggall - Thursday 3 December 2020

31. ‘Coopers is old school’ with Mark Butler - Thursday 26 November 2020

30. Hard working stimulus with Kellie Caught and Nick Aberle - Friday 20 November 2020

29. Biden and climate with Frankie Muskovic and Tennant Reed - Tuesday 10 November 2020

28. Data and Discovery with Carlos Flores and Esther Bailey - Friday 6 November 2020

27. Government leadership with Annie Shepperd - Sunday 29 October 2020

26. Navigating a dynamic energy landscape - Sunday 22 October 2020

25. Building coalitions with Frankie Muskovic - Thursday 16 October 2020

24. Accelerating a green economic recovery - Wednesday 7 October 2020

23. Energy, emissions and economic recovery with Tony Wood - Wednesday 30 September 2020

22: Presidents and policy with Steven Nadel - Wednesday 23 September 2020

21: Dynamic systems with Edith Bayer - Tuesday 15 September 2020

20: Transforming markets with Meg McDonald - Tuesday 8 September 2020

19: Post pandemic pathways with Tennant Reed - Thursday 3 September 2020

18: Getting further faster with Paul Ruyssevelt and Carlos Flores - Wednesday 26 August 2020

17: Healthy homes with Donna Luckman - Wednesday 19 August 2020

16: Investing for impact with Ian Learmonth - Monday 10 August 2020

15: Scaling success with Dr Satish Kumar - Tuesday 4 August 2020

14: Thinking differently with Cheryl Desha - Wednesday 29 July 2020

13: Building back better with Davina Rooney - Wednesday 22 July 2020

12: Enabling ecosystems with Bradley Anderson and Tennant Reed - Tuesday 14 July 2020

11: Renovating Europe with Adrian Joyce - Thursday 9 July 2020

10: Swiss army knife of stimulus with Michael Liebreich - Wednesday 1 July 2020

9: Innovation and optimisation with Dr Phil Blythe - Tuesday 23 June 2020

8: Wholesale change with Craig Memery -  Tuesday 16 June 2020

7: Technology and change with Rosemary Sinclair AM - Wednesday 10 June 2020

6: Active efficiency with Dr Andrew McAllister - Thursday 4 June 2020

5: Catalysts for change with Alan Pears AM - Wednesay 27 May 2020

4: Reviews and roadmaps with Chloe Munro AO - Thursday 21 May 2020 

3: Coronavirus and Aussie industry with Tennant Reed - Thursday 14 May 2020

2: Energy efficiency and economic stimulus with Brian Motherway, IEA - Thursday 7 May 2020

1: Decarbonisation Futures with Anna Skarbek, ClimateWorks Australia - Thursday 30 April 2020